tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6799936406438348672.post7265611683557367816..comments2024-02-20T22:50:20.515-08:00Comments on Portrait In Smash: Falco optimal fastfall timingsami.muhannahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01292091961570927436noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6799936406438348672.post-47065121585011299012017-03-03T11:55:35.119-08:002017-03-03T11:55:35.119-08:00LOOL I just saw this. Yea dude, you knew what was ...LOOL I just saw this. Yea dude, you knew what was up.sami.muhannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01292091961570927436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6799936406438348672.post-74706502626220558092017-01-17T11:55:51.927-08:002017-01-17T11:55:51.927-08:00Hey, glad you wrote this. I caught onto this year...Hey, glad you wrote this. I caught onto this years ago and tried to bring it up but was shot down on the falco boards:<br /><br />https://smashboards.com/threads/falco-discussion-thread.256826/page-441#post-14752368Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14769495031072384242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6799936406438348672.post-14864742936187317312016-09-13T04:50:22.390-07:002016-09-13T04:50:22.390-07:00Yo did that stream ever happen/did you make a vide...Yo did that stream ever happen/did you make a video or highlight demonstrating this? A little late to the party I know hahaAdairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02617539750743276122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6799936406438348672.post-47326849008360810502016-01-20T02:58:30.280-08:002016-01-20T02:58:30.280-08:00I have a question or two.
Does this work in the s...I have a question or two.<br /><br />Does this work in the same way fundamentally with any other ariels like dair? <br /><br />And also, does nair have the best frame advantage on shield out of all of faclo's ariels? Just the way you've phrased things seems to imply that. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09578343260061920951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6799936406438348672.post-9611842863542565652016-01-01T18:08:20.720-08:002016-01-01T18:08:20.720-08:00This is really helpful for an aspiring Falco playe...This is really helpful for an aspiring Falco player like myself. Thanks for writing this. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01460331465790412082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6799936406438348672.post-54230510801580476322015-12-30T12:30:41.760-08:002015-12-30T12:30:41.760-08:00The later the aerial, the more timing mixups you h...The later the aerial, the more timing mixups you have! It also prevents them from buffer rolling between your aerial and shine.<br /><br />Like if I do an aerial that's -2 on block, I have 4 different frames I can shine on, which makes it much harder to defend against. You can't really perfectly react to someone's shine hitting your shield, there has to be some element of expectation as the defender. So if you do a -6 aerial, there's only 1 frame you can shine on that beats shield grab. So if I wait for your shine, it pretty much guarantees that I can be frame perfect OoS to counter your next action if I want to be.sami.muhannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01292091961570927436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6799936406438348672.post-59692668104418052822015-12-23T23:15:56.793-08:002015-12-23T23:15:56.793-08:00I'm not sure I really see a huge benefit in do...I'm not sure I really see a huge benefit in doing aerials that hit a frame before you land if you are planning on shining to protect yourself. If you're just spacing a bair or want to do aerial -> grab without shining first, sure, it makes sense to want those free frames before them, but if you're going to shine regardless then all a late aerial does is make it easy for them to realize they should not attempt to punish it.<br /><br />If you think they will shield grab, then you can do an aerial that is -6 to make them believe they can punish it and then you get a free shine opening by beating their shield grab attempt. If they properly identify the aerial as safe, you don't lose anything, and in fact you gained the opportunity to get your aerial out a little sooner than if you had committed to doing a totally late aerial.Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03173425755148790246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6799936406438348672.post-12922275372832874102015-12-14T05:25:45.402-08:002015-12-14T05:25:45.402-08:00Doing something with less frame advantage won'...Doing something with less frame advantage won't ever be beneficial, because the shieldstun the opponent goes through is the same either way. Conditioning the opposite way could be beneficial, because the opponent is consistently respecting a slightly earlier aerial...then you delay your next aerial by a couple more frames.sami.muhannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01292091961570927436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6799936406438348672.post-65484344969857679692015-12-13T15:06:01.288-08:002015-12-13T15:06:01.288-08:00Hey Sami, nice writeup. Could I have your opinion ...Hey Sami, nice writeup. Could I have your opinion on something related to this? How do you feel about purposefully manipulating your frame advantage on shield to bait out different options? <br /><br />For example, let's say I'm playing Fox against you, and I keep my nairs around -5 on your shield throughout our set, just enough for you to buffer rolls out of. How would you respond if I "slipped up" and did one that was -8 or -9? Would you be able to get that shine OoS on reaction, or would you just get the safe wavedash out and go from there? <br /><br />I dunno if this type of conditioning would work past a low level, do you think it'd be worth learning how to do?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03915851166359037810noreply@blogger.com